No Rapture–Further Proof

Many Christians feel that, well, God would just not allow His true people to go through the Great Tribulation Period.  God would just not let us suffer like that because He loves us.

Many reason that God is too merciful and through Christ’s sacrifice we have been redeemed.  So God would not allow His Christians of the modern era be killed during Tribulation and waste, as it were, His redemptive work in us.

God did say, “I change not…I am the same yesterday, today, and forever” (Mal. 3: 6; Heb. 13: 8).  So we need to find out what He has done in the past; that will be the key to gain understanding about this mystery.

He also said, “My thoughts are not your thoughts; neither are your ways my ways” (Isa. 55: 8).  Man thinks with man’s wisdom.  But God’s ways are grounded in precedent that He has laid out throughout history, telling “the end from the beginning.”  We all need to get this one thing: God is sovereign and will do things His way, not how we would do it. “There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death” (Prov. 14: 12). It seems right that God would not let His followers suffer through the tribulation period. But that is man’s thinking.

I recently had a comment supporting the rapture.  It was well reasoned and articulated.  In it the reader said, “God couldn’t protect them all [Christians during the Tribulation] AND fulfill what has been prophesied.” I disagree in that “with God all things are possible.” God can do with us whatever He chooses to do

He also said that “God has always removed his own from places that would receive his judgmentl.” I replied, “Where does it say that?” In fact, the scriptures reveal just the opposite.

Before the Great Tribulation Period begins, God induces the 7 year tribulation by first opening the seals of the book that contains the Great Tribulation Period in its pages. These seals include the world wars, calamity of nations, famine, and Death [seals 1-4]. To think that these God ordained catastrophes, which are the seals of the end time book opened by Jesus Himself–did not include true Christians is not thinking this thing through. I know that of the 500,000 American dead in World War II, there were several thousand American Christians who were killed.  And that was just one war since Christ started opening the seals–His doing.

Look at the fifth seal in Rev. 6: 9-11: the souls of Christians killed are crying, Revenge us. And they are told to wait until their fellow Christians that should be killed should be fulfilled. Should be killed?

And what about the sixth seal–the mother of all natural disasters–great earthquake, “stars of heaven” falling into the earth [asteroids, meteorites], the “kings of the earth and the great men” say to the mountains, Fall on us and hide us from the face of him that sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb: for the great day of His wrath is come…” (6:15-17).

Christ even alludes to this time of the opening of the sixth seal when He spoke to those women, mourning for Him because of the imminent  death by crucifixion.  “Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.”  Why? Because of the hardships on the little children brought on by the sixth seal.  “For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren…”  For the barren women won’t have children that will suffer through tribulation.  “Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us” (Luke 23:  28-30).  These are the exact words used by the “rich men” in Rev. 6 when earth wide disaster hits.  And He said that to His followers!

So God’s wrath has already started; it is all His doing and His followers are still on the earth. With all of these seals opening, Christians unfortunately may be killed.  But for us, “to die is gain.” And this is just the preview of the trumpets and vials to come during the actual 7 year Tribulation.

Moreover, Christ is speaking directly about the Great Tribulation Period in Matt. 24. At the time of the abomination of desolation, “there shall be great tribulation…and except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake, those days shall be shortened” (Matt. 24: 15, 21-22). We are talking about the real flesh bodies of the elect of God, perishing right along with the rest of humanity except that God would intervene and cut the wrath time short.

Historical Proof

Furthermore, here is biblical historical proof that God’s followers perish along with the unrighteous–done by God’s own hand: God is warning Jerusalem through Ezekiel. “Behold, I am against thee, and will draw out my sword out of his sheath, and will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked…against all flesh…” (21: 2-4). What was Yahweh’s sword? The Babylonian army. “…That the sword of the king of Babylon may come” (v. 19). At the time of the fall of Jerusalem about 600 B.C., God still had “7,000 that had not bowed the knee to Baal,” and some of them perished by the sword of the LORD–Babylonia.

So we see that Christians have been and may be slain through God’s auspices; He is sovereign and can do His plan exactly the way He wants to. Perhaps this is what it means when it says, “You gave us up to be devoured like sheep and have scattered us among the nations…You have made us a reproach to our neighbors, the scorn and derision of those around us…All this happened to us, though we had not forgotten you or been false to your covenant” (Psm 44: 11, 13, 17, NIV). And, yet, “as it is written, for thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter” (Rom 8:36).

God is sovereign, and His way of doing things is not our way.  He has His reasons why His followers will not be raptured, why no one will be raptured–a concept foreign to the early church apostles and fathers–a concept literally born in a dream by a woman in the 19th Century.

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8 responses to “No Rapture–Further Proof

  1. What you have conveyed is what one day, when you stand before God, you will never have to be afraid of Him having been dissapointed in you. Not then, and not now. Your words magnify His Soverign right, a right he Himself alone possesses…to do just precisely what He choses to do…and I would add one more thing…His elect are His elect because he has chosen them and those who are not His elect are not His because he has not chosen them.
    Those who know His Word and who are His elect, know what awaits them and what awits them could not be more clearly presented than how you have done that.
    You may have lost some readers but you have certainly shown you know and love God.
    God was honored; God was glorified in The Holiness He alone possesses.

    • Your words, William Reinholt, have touched and encouraged me greatly. Some years ago when He put it into my heart to use the writing talent that He had given me, I told Him that I would publish what He gave me. If there is light and truth in the words of these writings, it is only because He, the great Yahweh, has seen fit to reveal rarified things to me, connections in scripture that I cannot in this limited physical shell in which I dwell generate at will or whim.

      Some years ago I had the revelation that the “interpretation of tongues” had to do with making the things of scripture intelligible–things written down for us in our own language. A brother who had the revelation of Yahweh’s name was sharing the word with me. He sent me tapes and writings, but they were all direct quotes from the KJV. No explanations, no connections explained. Just plain KJV English passages strung together. I told him thanks and that he needed to let the Spirit expound on the passages, but I never heard back from him. The passages of scripture in our native language needs to be interpreted and that is how He revealed what His apostle Paul was saying there in I Cor. 12: 10–“the interpretation of tongues [languages].” The word of God must be explained in clear everyday English to English speakers. It was only later that I looked “interpretation” up in the Greek and, sure enough, it is translated from the Greek word meaning, “to explain in words.”

      The “interpretation of tongues” is making spiritual sense of His word in our own language. This is a spiritual gift from God through a person, for only the Spirit can reveal spiritual things in the first place, much less explain it in simple terms to another. The “interpretation of languages” is a gift right up there with faith, healings, and miracle working. Amazing, isn’t it. He gives the gifts as He needs them to further His plan. But first, I should think, He wants to explain what His purpose and plan is, and He wants us, His sons and daughters, to be able to flow this gift to others, for that is their need. Think what would happen if all of Christ’s followers started raising the dead and emptying out the hospitals; the press upon us would be so severe that we would not be able to handle it. We would be swamped by the multitudes–multitudes that we could not explain God’s plan to fully. First things first.

      I feel that many Christians are stymied in their spiritual growth because they have become ossified and stratified and have become the stone that old leaven doctrines are cut into. He did say to break up the stony ground, the hearts of stone, and become as precious trusting little children that are not too proud or protective of the themselves to come to Him and be healed.

      So, thank you again, William, for yours words. You know what it is like to be quasi-alone (except for the 7,000 who have not bowed the knee to Baal, even though they are not physically present with us). May Yahweh continue to bless you richly. He has me today through your words. Kenneth Wayne Hancock

  2. Blessings Kenneth
    You are so right about no rapture.
    About the rapture.Matt 24:15-22 summary – Yahshua says When you see these things Let them which is in Judea flee into the mountains. Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take anything out of his house,
    neither let him which is in the field turn back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
    But pray you that your flight be not in winter, neither on the Sabbath Day.
    He never says anything about taking the saints out before the tribulation.
    It is also interesting I found that most people believe that in keeping the
    sabbath is only required for th Jews. Christians are told they must keep
    the 10 commandments. Yahshua said the same thing. Keeping the
    Sabbath is one of the commandments. I know that you know all of this,
    but I found that very few people are aware of this. If we break any of
    the commandments we are committing sin.

    Love in Yahshua

    Loretta Taylor

    • Thank you so much, Loretta, for your comment. You are so right in your assessment. May Yahshua continue to bless you with His presence. Kenneth Wayne Hancock

  3. Lynn

    God saved Noah and his family from the flood. God saved Lot and his daughters from the destruction of Sodom. God always saves a remnant of His faithful. There will be a “catching away” of the faithful few, but they will be few. No rapture is a false teaching or doctrine of deception that goes clearly against the Word of God. Otherwise He wouldn’t have commanded you to “Pray always that you might be counted worthy to ESCAPE ALL these things that are coming to pass and to stand before the Son of Man (who happens to be in His Father’s Kingdom in HEAVEN). Luke 21:36 I’m so weary of this satanic doctrine of no rapture, which encourages God’s people to disobey His command to be counted worthy to escape the tribulation and instead of watching for HIM, they are watching for the antichrist.l

    • “that you might be counted worthy to escape all these things…” Escape, yes. But it does not go down the way rapture theorists say. Lynn. There is a “catching away” where His elect will be changed into a spiritual body and they will rise in those spirit bodies into the air–air, the place where the birds fly, atmosphere. Look it up in the Greek. And they will join the Savior ON HIS WAY DOWN HERE TO THE EARTH. For He is coming back here to rule and reign for a thousand years. Now let’s read this proof text again: “Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord” (I Thess. 4: 17). I have said this in my articles that Christ is returning and we will come back with Him. [See this article: https://immortalityroad.wordpress.com/2008/08/05/no-pre-tribulation-rapture-gods-elect-on-earth-during-tribulation/

  4. Sheila White

    I have just discovered your website and just want to say I appreciate your stance on the Rapture Theory with which I completely agree. I have been totally convinced for quite a while that if we are still alive we shall be caught up to meet the Lord in the air on His way down at the end of the tribulation. There is no evidence in scripture for a secret rapture at the beginning or indeed in the middle. It is escapist make-believe which sadly most Christians have fallen for. There is a more accurate explanation for Matthew 24:40-41 – it has nothing to do with any rapture – when you read it in context and lay it against the analogy of Noah’s ark and the flood you see that all those who were “taken away” actually perished. Luke 17:26-37 makes it even clearer – those who are “taken” go to destruction. Jesus’ reply to “Where Lord?” meaning “to where are they taken?” – where the vultures are gathered – a place of death. So many people use this to justify their rapture theory. What nonsense! Thank you for speaking the truth. It is most encouraging!

    • And, Sheila, your comment is most encouraging, as well. Thanks for taking the time in writing it down for God’s people, who are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Your points are crystal clear and completely correct. Please feel free to comment again. kwh

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